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Coal, not oilsands, the true climate change bad guy says study

The Canadian Press -- One of the world's top climate scientists has calculated that emissions from Alberta's oilsands are unlikely to make a big difference to global warming and that the real threat to the planet comes from burning coal.

"I was surprised by the results of our analysis," said Andrew Weaver, a University of Victoria climate modeller, who has been a lead author on two reports from the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. "I thought it was larger than it was."

In a commentary published Sunday in the prestigious journal Nature, Weaver and colleague Neil Stewart analyze how burning all global stocks of coal, oil and natural gas would affect temperatures. Their analysis breaks out unconventional gas, such as undersea methane hydrates and shale gas produced by fracking, as well a

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Submitted Feb 19, 2012 By: kb726

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NHLiveFree Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:11,070 Points:1,619,180 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Feb 22, 2012 1:06:02 AM Ignore NHLiveFree Report Abuse That is for sure PDQBlues. Neither PD nor the Flat Earth Society gang here care to read the real news like this article, yet they are drawn to it like moths to a flame!
lyons_coop Veteran Author Kansas Posts:411 Points:153,710 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2012 9:47:29 PM Ignore lyons_coop Report Abuse That's kind of a no brainer.
FuelishGuy All-Star Author Edmonton Posts:794 Points:922,770 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2012 7:15:33 PM Ignore FuelishGuy Report Abuse Get 3 experts together and you'll get 6 different opinions and 9 different conclusions.
Eliano Champion Author Baltimore Posts:1,412 Points:388,100 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2012 12:56:40 PM Ignore Eliano Report Abuse not a big surprise
Norm10 Champion Author British Columbia Posts:3,332 Points:162,475 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2012 11:18:41 AM Ignore Norm10 Report Abuse Finally - someone is starting to understand!
dgerst Champion Author South Carolina Posts:2,691 Points:553,000 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2012 8:13:18 AM Ignore dgerst Report Abuse If gas and coal companies would only impose tougher controls on their own operations, and if regulators would stiffen rules and crack down on violators.
MontanaMac Champion Author Washington Posts:1,736 Points:410,050 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2012 7:24:17 AM Ignore MontanaMac Report Abuse China and India are both rapidly developing and deploying coal burning energy assets.
NedW Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:5,599 Points:1,139,320 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2012 4:41:07 AM Ignore NedW Report Abuse China is bringing 2 coal fired plants online a month right now. Nor is their government kissing the a$$ of Gaia worshipers for votes. All the while, de-industrializtion is full speed in the US, courtesy of "share the wealth within nations, among nations" President Hussein Obama.
NedW Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:5,599 Points:1,139,320 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2012 4:16:28 AM Ignore NedW Report Abuse "United Nations Intergovernmental Panel Does anyone else see the redundancy in that label?
1WI All-Star Author Appleton Posts:818 Points:274,255 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2012 1:51:11 AM Ignore 1WI Report Abuse Not good!
johntxx Champion Author Texas Posts:2,766 Points:613,395 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2012 12:53:23 AM Ignore johntxx Report Abuse In a January 30, 2005, Miami Herald editorial, former Greenpeace co-founder and president, Dr. Patrick Moore said he left his own organization because “much of the environmental movement, made a sharp turn to the political left and began adopting extreme agendas that abandoned science and logic in favor of emotion and sensationalism.” It’s only gotten worse. The once wholesome and worthwhile goal to protect the planet was hijacked and turned into a pseudo religion – by some who care more about transferring America’s wealth than they do the environment.
Nicoalbum Champion Author Ottawa Posts:6,002 Points:1,186,040 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2012 12:16:32 AM Ignore Nicoalbum Report Abuse Apparently, the researcher was paid by oil sands companies.
livable1 Champion Author New York Posts:2,323 Points:283,265 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 11:40:46 PM Ignore livable1 Report Abuse Mummmm
RonTheRunner77 Veteran Author Michigan Posts:343 Points:119,115 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 11:26:32 PM Ignore RonTheRunner77 Report Abuse not exactly a newsflash but i suppose they have to "study" something to get them grants.
jwkycola All-Star Author Columbia Posts:817 Points:530,150 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 11:24:10 PM Ignore jwkycola Report Abuse This is not news.
lesndave Champion Author Texas Posts:3,022 Points:698,130 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 11:22:30 PM Ignore lesndave Report Abuse Duh
peakkeller Champion Author Colorado Springs Posts:1,674 Points:774,325 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 11:20:00 PM Ignore peakkeller Report Abuse Look at the poor air in China caused by coal.
PDQBlues Champion Author San Diego Posts:7,059 Points:1,445,400 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 10:40:37 PM Ignore PDQBlues Report Abuse Thanks for posting this article, kb726. But be careful. Posting such facts could get you banned from this site.
danol43 Champion Author Modesto Posts:1,697 Points:586,680 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 10:39:35 PM Ignore danol43 Report Abuse duh...
drpepperTX Champion Author Texas Posts:8,929 Points:750,035 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 10:34:17 PM Ignore drpepperTX Report Abuse Agreed playtimeCLE.
playtimeCLE Champion Author Cleveland Posts:8,545 Points:1,541,450 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 9:45:46 PM Ignore playtimeCLE Report Abuse While coal my cause its share of pollution, (as witnessed by those who went to China for the olympics) the only thing causing warmth in our climate is the earth going through a warming phase. If you live long enough you will see it cool back down in its own way.
doeslayersr Champion Author Illinois Posts:9,093 Points:869,080 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 9:31:22 PM Ignore doeslayersr Report Abuse The article is wrong on both counts. Coal does not cause global warming or climate change. And there is no human made global warming or human made climate change. When the climate of this planet changes, it is beyond the control of anyone (i.e the reason for the numerous separate ice ages and glaciers which have covered what is now North America.... well before human beings were on the scene. [Edited by: doeslayersr at 2/19/2012 9:32:20 PM EST]
geepy All-Star Author Long Island Posts:779 Points:520,745 Joined:Aug 2009	Message Posted: Feb 19, 2012 9:20:04 PM Ignore geepy Report Abuse to cool the earth down keep your refrigerator door open